If Adam ever wants to win BB, this is his best, if not only, chance to make a move. He makes a deal with Porsche and takes her off the block. Rachel would then have to put Jordan up as a replacement, and then A and P vote out Jordan. Since Rachel con't compete in HOH, she would go on the block no matter who won. But does Adam have the stones to make a move?

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Bardman, he might hear you!!!!

I think as Shelly proved, just making a move for the sake of being able to say you did is not a good call. At the moment, his only teeny tiny hope of winning is if he is against Porsche and the vets vote for him. If he back stabs Jordan, that teeny tiny hope goes away because he would lose the vets votes. Any other final pairing has him second. His smartest move now is to not use the veto, but assure Porsche's safety and move her closer to his side.

That kind of big move could win him the big prize but he's too much of a wuss to do it! He's going out the same way he has played this entire game. Like a mouse! And he says he loves the game?!!

That "Big Move" will only lose him Jury votes. The vets (J/J/B/R) thought of him as part of their alliance just like he did Shelly. You saw what happened when SHE decided to make a "Big Move". He can't afford to lose 4 Jury votes should Rachel actually go out after Jordan.

Not only that, but at this point in the game, you HAVE to think a little ahead. While it is true that Rachel can't play for HoH next week...HoH means NOTHING except your own safety. Next week it is ALL ABOUT the Veto. The person who holds the Veto has the ONLY vote in the house. Rachel is more than capable of winning the Veto and if Adam isn't HoH, he could be in serious danger if she does because he would be one of the two on the block and he would be there only 1 day after stabbing her in the back and voting out her only true friend in the house. They have figured out that there is only 2 weeks left before the finale which means that more than likely, there will be 2 evictions this week. As much as Jordan is keeping Adam loyal to Rach, she is also keeping Rachel loyal to Adam. Without her...all bets are off between the two of them. Adam needs her not only as sheild between him and Rachel, but also as a target should Kalia or Porsche (whoever is left) gets HoH.

If Adam does make a big move by using his veto, I think he has the potential to win.

I don't know, would the vets really be angry against Adam? Wouldn't they look it as Adam taking out the strongest candidate (Jordon) to win $500 grand?

I can't figure Adam's strategy out, it's either pretty thought out or pretty bad.

I agree that using that veto right now would not be a smart move for Adam. That would make him Rachel's number 1 target next week. She has a very good chance of winning that POV and unless he is hoh, she WILL send him packing in a heartbeat. Plus he would have to compete against Kalia in the the next hoh which will more than likely be questions, so that lessens his chance on winning that as well. I think if he stays true to Rachel and Jordan and can win a couple more comps including the final to choose who to take to the end, he will win against Jordan at the end. Regardless, he has to get there first to even have a chance, and if he goes against Rachel and Jordan at this point, he won't even get there. Also, if he keeps Porsche safe this week he still has a chance to keep her on his side and nobody will really be looking to send him out next week.

I think in the end he will play it safe. He will ask Rachel and Jordan what they want and do it. He doesn't have a brain. Besides....even tho we haven't seen the POV yet....I'm willing to bet someone threw it to him...LOL

It is basically, who would you want to sit next to you- Kalia who has won 2 HOHs or Jordan who has won 1. Kalia would get votes for better player. Jordan might gets votes for being nice.

I would boot out Kalia. Jordan has been nice to Adam. Kalia not so much. Besides Kalia is a threat until he can remove Kalia from being Porsche's partner.

Everyone in the house and on this board has been complaining all summer that Adam hasn’t done anything but float and doesn’t deserve win. Now everything thinks he should continue to float and he can win that way. But unless he wins HOH this week he is screwed or will go home next week. And he definitely won’t WIN no matter what if he doesn't. Here’s why (if he makes no move and Kalia goes home)?

Scenario #1: Adam wins HOH (doubtful given his track record), then he would have to put up Porsche and either R or J up. Even if the POV will decide all, he’d have to pick between the two and lose the final three vote of the other. That is his best case scenario if he doesn’t make a move. And if he did end up sitting next R or J he has no chance.

Scenario #2: Porsche wins HOH and puts up Rachel and Jordan, and the noms don’t change. Adam is the sole voter and has to limply, publicly pick Rachel or Jordan, which will piss off the other and their mate. And if he did make it to the end with Porsche under this scenario I don’t think anyone (including the vets) would vote for him at that point because he never made a play the whole game and at least Porsche had.

Scenario #3: Porsche wins HOH, puts up R and J, and one of them wins POV. Now he the only replacement with R or J as the sole vote and he will be evicted.

Scenario #4: Rachel or Jordan win HOH, he will be on the block and depending on who wins POV he will go home or will end up in the final three with R and J, and would have no shot at winning against either.

Scenario #5: He floats to end hoping everyone else picks each other off and he never gets his hands dirty, and one on the jury will respect him or vote for him...and he won't win.

But…if he makes a bold move now, gets Jordan out, then it’s 3 against 1 and would have a shot of at least of going against Kalia or Porsche at the end and the jury would recognize he made a bold move when it counted. Taking emotion out of it, that’s the most strategic option IF he wants to win. If he’s content just making it another week or to get second place, then do nothing. But if wants to WIN the game, this is his only shot.

Bard, I think you are confusing what floating means. Adam, at this point, has never voted against his early alliance. Ever. He has ridden coat tails, but stuck with his alliance for votes. Voting against Jordan this round negates all of that. If Jordan and Rachel are up next week, he will have to vote one of them out, but he still will not have broken his alliance, and will keep the vet votes. Voting out Jordan now would make him a floater, and would lose all possible vet votes. You want him to trade a final three with Jordan and Rache, where he is the third, for a final three with Kalia and Porsche, where he is the third. Where is the big move? Where is the advantage? It makes no sense for him.